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	<title>Comments on: How BtoB and Consumer Marketing companies measure Social Media strategies – and why this new blog post matters to you today</title>
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		<title>By: Measuring Social Media Strategies &#171; Suzanne LaChapelle&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Measuring Social Media Strategies &#171; Suzanne LaChapelle&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Uri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this post. We just had a discussion about ROI analysis of AdWords campaigns in our company (Optify, Inc.), and this post came right on time. To responde to Oli Gardner request for tracking Twitter application, Optify offers a Twitter for Business application that does just that. You can check it out on our website - www.optify.net, and sign up for the free beta to try the product. 
We are working now on adding more and more measurement metrics to our application to allow better analytics of the effect of social media on your profitability.
Thank you again for this post and the link to the report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post. We just had a discussion about ROI analysis of AdWords campaigns in our company (Optify, Inc.), and this post came right on time. To responde to Oli Gardner request for tracking Twitter application, Optify offers a Twitter for Business application that does just that. You can check it out on our website &#8211; <a href="http://www.optify.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.optify.net</a>, and sign up for the free beta to try the product.<br />
We are working now on adding more and more measurement metrics to our application to allow better analytics of the effect of social media on your profitability.<br />
Thank you again for this post and the link to the report.</p>
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		<title>By: Social Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Social Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raquel -

Nice coverage.  Social media is much like other marketing endeavors with regards to measurement.  That is many companies do not know how to appropriately measure and/or ignore this important step.  Measurement is imperative - you want to maximize your efforts so you have to know what results you are producing.  Also, it is required for budget justification - at least where I have worked over the years.

The one thing I always recommend is NOT to tie social media (or marketing) measurement to sales.  This always leads to endless debate.  The fact is that &quot;Sales&quot; sells and marketing creates awareness and generates qualified leads.  Lets not mix these two up.

So what should be measured?  I make some recommendations in an article I authored, &quot;Measuring the Value of Social Media&quot; at http://bit.ly/hodQp.  I hope you find this useful.

Best,
Social Steve

PS Given the name of your blog, I thought you might find this interesting as well - &quot;Social Media Conversion and the Social Media Marketing Funnel&quot; at http://bit.ly/dsPrq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raquel -</p>
<p>Nice coverage.  Social media is much like other marketing endeavors with regards to measurement.  That is many companies do not know how to appropriately measure and/or ignore this important step.  Measurement is imperative &#8211; you want to maximize your efforts so you have to know what results you are producing.  Also, it is required for budget justification &#8211; at least where I have worked over the years.</p>
<p>The one thing I always recommend is NOT to tie social media (or marketing) measurement to sales.  This always leads to endless debate.  The fact is that &#8220;Sales&#8221; sells and marketing creates awareness and generates qualified leads.  Lets not mix these two up.</p>
<p>So what should be measured?  I make some recommendations in an article I authored, &#8220;Measuring the Value of Social Media&#8221; at <a href="http://bit.ly/hodQp" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/hodQp</a>.  I hope you find this useful.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Social Steve</p>
<p>PS Given the name of your blog, I thought you might find this interesting as well &#8211; &#8220;Social Media Conversion and the Social Media Marketing Funnel&#8221; at <a href="http://bit.ly/dsPrq." rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/dsPrq.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Wind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Wind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article Raquel.
I&#039;ve just started to follow you folks.
 I follow  smarter people with smarter content and you folks provide great info.
 Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article Raquel.<br />
I&#8217;ve just started to follow you folks.<br />
 I follow  smarter people with smarter content and you folks provide great info.<br />
 Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Raquel Hirsch</title>
		<link>http://www.widerfunnel.com/best-practices/how-btob-and-consumer-marketing-companies-measure-social-media-strategies-%e2%80%93-and-why-this-matter-to-you/comment-page-1#comment-6001</link>
		<dc:creator>Raquel Hirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your quote &quot;Any agency worth their while will always define a way to measure the success of any project they work on&quot;! 

The fearless marketing players in these turbulent times acknowledge that marketing is about *business* and that determining the benefit of what we do needs to be an objective - even if the tools are rough at the moment. I am sure your clients value that in what you bring, Gifford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your quote &#8220;Any agency worth their while will always define a way to measure the success of any project they work on&#8221;! </p>
<p>The fearless marketing players in these turbulent times acknowledge that marketing is about *business* and that determining the benefit of what we do needs to be an objective &#8211; even if the tools are rough at the moment. I am sure your clients value that in what you bring, Gifford.</p>
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		<title>By: Gifford Morley-Fletcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gifford Morley-Fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Raquel, and very relevant as more and more agencies encourage their clients to dip their toes in the world of Social Media Marketing. Any agency worth their while will always define a way to measure the success of any project they work on, but you&#039;re quite right - there&#039;s no standard form of measurement for Social Media.

At the same time, maybe this isn&#039;t surprising. One of my bugbears at the moment is people who always insist that the &#039;R&#039; in ROI is financial. I work in B2B marketing, and when we work with Social Media, we&#039;re generally dealing with the top of the funnel, raising awareness of our clients&#039; brands and products, and encouraging people to engage with them. 

It&#039;s often impossible to measure performance in terms of leads, sales or anything financial in the short term, and we therefore only set targets in terms of what we are able to measure. For that reason, the ROI we measure differs from client to client, although it will pretty much come from the list you mention above: traffic, engagement, branding (in terms of mentions), and occasionally leads.

Still, you&#039;d be mad not to measure at all - my clients certainly wouldn&#039;t let me get away with that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Raquel, and very relevant as more and more agencies encourage their clients to dip their toes in the world of Social Media Marketing. Any agency worth their while will always define a way to measure the success of any project they work on, but you&#8217;re quite right &#8211; there&#8217;s no standard form of measurement for Social Media.</p>
<p>At the same time, maybe this isn&#8217;t surprising. One of my bugbears at the moment is people who always insist that the &#8216;R&#8217; in ROI is financial. I work in B2B marketing, and when we work with Social Media, we&#8217;re generally dealing with the top of the funnel, raising awareness of our clients&#8217; brands and products, and encouraging people to engage with them. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s often impossible to measure performance in terms of leads, sales or anything financial in the short term, and we therefore only set targets in terms of what we are able to measure. For that reason, the ROI we measure differs from client to client, although it will pretty much come from the list you mention above: traffic, engagement, branding (in terms of mentions), and occasionally leads.</p>
<p>Still, you&#8217;d be mad not to measure at all &#8211; my clients certainly wouldn&#8217;t let me get away with that!</p>
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		<title>By: Raquel Hirsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raquel Hirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the insights, Oli. 

I like your approach of taking one social media at a time (the  one companies spend most time on?) and getting a good handle on it first. For sure social measurement is going to be the next killer app - but it will have to start with an agreement of what you *need* to measure, which in turn is predicated on what are the key drivers of company success (traffic? engagement? leads? etc).

(Re the spelling of my name, not to worry, I have been called worse :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the insights, Oli. </p>
<p>I like your approach of taking one social media at a time (the  one companies spend most time on?) and getting a good handle on it first. For sure social measurement is going to be the next killer app &#8211; but it will have to start with an agreement of what you *need* to measure, which in turn is predicated on what are the key drivers of company success (traffic? engagement? leads? etc).</p>
<p>(Re the spelling of my name, not to worry, I have been called worse <img src='http://www.widerfunnel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Oli Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oli Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse my misspelling of your name. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse my misspelling of your name. <img src='http://www.widerfunnel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Oli Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oli Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Racquel - lots of juice data in there.

Measuring the impact of social media is appearing as one of the biggest challenges to modern company operations. Just looking at the prevalence of blog posts dicussing it&#039;s importance and the need for it sets the stage.

I don&#039;t think anyone (that I&#039;ve read about) has really nailed a solid methodology for simple measurement of social media.

Taking one at a time even, if it were possible to track Twitter metrics over time in a graphical way (a la Google Analytics) would be huge.

This would need to incorporate tracking bugs to facilitate the connection between social media platforms and your end conversion goals.

Harder still are he brand oriented metrics.

I see the Karma tab on the Feedly service and I see some soft improvements and hope that we&#039;re getting there, but social measurement is surely the next KILLER APP.

Oli</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Racquel &#8211; lots of juice data in there.</p>
<p>Measuring the impact of social media is appearing as one of the biggest challenges to modern company operations. Just looking at the prevalence of blog posts dicussing it&#8217;s importance and the need for it sets the stage.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone (that I&#8217;ve read about) has really nailed a solid methodology for simple measurement of social media.</p>
<p>Taking one at a time even, if it were possible to track Twitter metrics over time in a graphical way (a la Google Analytics) would be huge.</p>
<p>This would need to incorporate tracking bugs to facilitate the connection between social media platforms and your end conversion goals.</p>
<p>Harder still are he brand oriented metrics.</p>
<p>I see the Karma tab on the Feedly service and I see some soft improvements and hope that we&#8217;re getting there, but social measurement is surely the next KILLER APP.</p>
<p>Oli</p>
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